The Kipling Journal.

The Organ of the Kipling Society.

QUARTERLY                         No. 34                          JUNE, 1935

Contents

Plates : "Kipling Calendar, 1900" and "Kipling and the Empire."

News and Notes......33          Reviews and New Books        ..    63

Kipling and the Sea       ..     . .    40          Letter Bag        ........    65

Kipling and the Empire..     ..    47         Secretary's Announcements ..    67

The Annual Conference and

Luncheon    52

News and Notes

WE owe a deep debt of gratitude to Mr. James Grierson, by whose
generosity and enterprise we are enabled to give the beautiful
and interesting plate in this number.    This "Kipling Calendar"
was copyrighted by Mr. Kipling in 1899 and the design is by his
father, the late Mr. J. Lockwood Kipling ; the photograph is by Mr. Flem-
ing of Bury Street.    The calendar was catalogued recently at  £20
and is the first and only edition.    In honour of His Majesty's Silver
Jubilee, we give a second plate, from a sketch by Miss F. Ardley,
showing Kipling as the Poet of the Empire.

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About 120 members and guests were present at the Third Meeting
of the Session, on the evening of Wednesday, 10th April, at the Hotel
Rembrandt. Lord Moynihan, K.C.M.G., C.B., LL.D., was in the
Chair and briefly introduced the Lecturer, Commander O. Locker-
Lampson, C.M.G., D.S.O., R.N.V.R., M.P. :—" I am suffering from
a very serious grievance. It is always the happy privilege of the Chair-
man when a distinguished visitor is going to speak to be able to perform
certain operations upon him. In the absence of an anaesthetic I
should be only too happy to perform a post-mortem in vivo upon our
guest to-night. But that very happy privilege is denied to me ! The
greatest of poets has said : ' Some men are born great, some achieve
greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. '    What the great

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poet omitted to say is that there are some men of whom all these three
things collectively might be said. Our Lecturer to-night is one of them.
He was born great, because his name is one which, before he bore it,
was already illustrious in the realms of literature. He acquired great-
ness by his very distinguished services during the War. He had
greatness thrust upon him by becoming the voxpopuli by having a seat
in the House of Commons thrust upon him. Do not blame him for
that! He has certainly proved that he deserved it." Before beginning
his Lecture, Commander Oliver Locker-Lampson acknowledged the
Chairman's introduction :—" May I thank Lord Moynihan for those
charming words about me ? It is quite clear that he ought to have
abandoned his stethoscope long ago for a seat in the House of Commons,
where he could have outclassed not only me in my humble efforts,
but many of our great orators in that House. He has recently been
honoured, and we all know how late that honour came, when he became
a Peer recently, and is now in the House of Lords. We shall look
forward with greater interest henceforward to his speeches in that
illustrious assembly. I prophecy his speaking career in the House
of Lords will be as remarkable as anything he has done in his life. I
thank him very much." The vote of thanks to the Lecturer was pro-
posed by Captain J. O. Tyler:—"If I may claim your indulgence for
one minute I should like to refer to a remark made about the B.I. boats.
I am no lawyer, and, thank God, I have never been a damned ' sea-
lawyer,' but I am very suspicious that it was not a very libellous state-
ment. When I had the pleasure of serving in the B.I. boats, they were
perfectly clean. I want to say another word about the ' Anchor Song.'
There was a prize essay by a schoolboy some ten years ago in which he
stated that this was a most garrulous fantasy and a lot of bally rot. I
speak as a sailing ship master mariner : it is perfectly honestly techni-
cally correct and there is not a single word to be thrown at it, but I
agree that nobody but an old sailor could appreciate it. I am very sorry
that, representing the part of the Sea Service that you did—the R.N.V.R.
—you did not refer to the Sea Constables. I think it is one of the very
best units. I met them in the War with their M.L.'s They came
from Banks, Insurance Companies, God knows where—some of them
were even doctors ! I am glad you referred to 'Captains Courageous,'
and I would ask you to remember in this book the incident of old Disko
Troop coming down to the singsong in the cabin. This old song,
' To the west of Bilbao,' is a genuine old song I heard 40 years ago. I
had my growl before, that Commander Locker-Lampson did not talk

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about sailors so much as the sea, but I most thoroughly enjoyed his
interesting Lecture, as we all did ; I propose a very hearty vote of
thanks and hope we shall see him here again." In seconding the vote,
Mr. C. A. Cusse said :—" I find that I have the pleasure of seconding
the vote of thanks to our very excellent Lecturer. I come from
Sussex, county of counties, Kipling's own county. Anybody who
does honour to Kipling does honour to Sussex."

During the evening Mr. William H. Brown, who has a delightful
voice, sang in spirited fashion " Brookland Road " (Martin Shaw)
and "Men of the Sea" (Percy Grainger). These were followed by
Baroness Van Heemstra's most attractive recitations, " The Nursing
Sister " and " Lukannon." Miss Daphne Bettger charmed all with
her artistic renderings of the " Love Song of Har Dyal " (Davies Adams)
and " A Tree Song " (Florence Aylward). After the interval Miss
Bettger gave Percy Grainger's setting of " Dedication " and the whimsi-
cal " Old Mother Laid-in-Wool " (Martin Shaw). Baroness Van
Heemstra then recited "The Answer" and "The Liner she's a Lady;"
as always, her recitations were much enjoyed. Mr. Brown sang in
lively swinging manner, " The Egg Shell " (Martin Shaw) and Edward
German's " I keep six honest Serving Men." A cordial vote of thanks
to the artists was proposed by Mrs. Dreschfield and seconded by Mr.
Mackenzie-Skues; the Meeting then concluded with "God Save the
King," played by Mr. Norman Franklin, who proved himself a most
sympathetic and efficient accompanist.

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At the extra evening Meeting on June 12th, a large and unusually re-
presentative audience assembled to hear Major-General Dunsterville
give his annual address, on the subject of " Kipling and the Empire."
Introducing the President, the Chairman, General Sir Alexander J.
Godley, G.C.B., K.C.M.G., A.D.C, said :—" Before I say anything
about the Lecturer, I should like to say how very pleased I am at
last to be able to come to a meeting of the Kipling Society. I have
belonged to it ever since it was started, and I have never been able
to get here before, as I have been abroad all the time. I need hardly
introduce the Lecturer to you. We know him as Stalky, we know him
as Dunsterville, we know him as a soldier, we know him as an author and
as President of this Society, and I know of nobody with his gifts as an
administrator or soldier. Nobody can be more qualified to couple the
name of Kipling with the great subject of Empire."    The President

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received an especially hearty welcome; after his serious illness in the
Spring, all present were very glad to see him about again.

The programme was in the capable hands of our talented member,
Miss Clarke-Jervoise, who began with charming renderings of the two
Seal Songs set by Liza Lehman. Mr. Nicholas P. Harrison followed
with Elgar's " The Lowestoft Boat " and "Fate's Discourtesy," in both
of which his fine, resonant voice was heard to advantage. Miss Clarke-
Jervoise concluded the first half of the programme by reciting with
great feeling "England's Answer" and brought out the full humour of
"My Rival." After the interval Miss Clarke-Jervoise opened with
" Blue Roses," set by A. Clarke-Jervoise, and gave a delightful render-
ing of German's " There was never a Queen like Balkis." Mr. Harri-
son then gave " Tiger, Tiger," set by Miss Clarke-Jervoise, and as an
encore " The Smuggler's Song " to a setting by M. Kernochan. Mr.
Norman Franklin played the accompaniments in his always efficient
and sympathetic manner, and Miss Clarke-Jervoise concluded the enter-
tainment with a very moving recitation of " The English Flag"

Mr. Fox proposed a vote of thanks to the Lecturer : —" Our President
said that the subject of Kipling and the Empire had been dealt with
several times before ; though some of us might have thought that it was
rather difficult to find anything new to say, we knew perfectly well that
it would be as fresh and original as Kipling himself. We shall all agree
about his very amusing asides—they would make a good book ! You
may not all know that Our President has been going through a severe
illness, though you would not believe it to look at him, and I was
thinking, while he was speaking, how interesting it would have been if
the B.B.C. could have taken a gramophone record of some of his asides
to the doctors and, more still, to the nurses ! It would have sold through-
out the Empire ! We are very thankful that he is restored to health,
and I end by quoting four apposite lines from our Poet :—

So, when thine own dark hour shall fall,

Unchallenged canst thou say :
' I never worried you at all,

For God's sake go away !'

The Vote of Thanks was seconded by Mr. John Sanderson.

The Vote of Thanks to the entertainers was proposed by Commander
O. Locker-Lampson, M.P : " We must all be very grateful to the
entertainers for their magnificent support this evening. We have learnt
that the Services are eloquent when we have heard General Dunsterville,

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and now I am not expected—even though I am an M.P.—to make a speech
at so late an hour. I shall leave you instead to pass a very hearty vote
of thanks. A better entertainment I have never heard at a Kipling
gathering or anywhere else." Mr. W. F. Gemmer seconded:— " Two
years ago, when you honoured me with a similar task, I said that
whereas with the words of songs the less you hear of them the better,
in the case of Kipling and W. S. Gilbert the words matter more than
the music ; this has been beautifully brought out to-night."

A Vote of Thanks to General Sir Alexander Godley, who took the
Chair, was proposed by Lt.-General Sir George MacMunn ; the
evening then ended with the singing of " God Save the King," played
by Mr. Norman Franklin.

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In our No. 33, the President sent a message of greeting to the newly-
established Victoria B.C. Branch of the Society. It is good news to
hear that this, the first Branch, is like a healthy child, "doing well."
Much credit is due to the Founder, Mr. Cornwell, who is also Secretary
to the local branch of the Royal Society of St. George. We offer Mr.
Cornwell our hearty congratulations on the success of his efforts,
and hope that other Overseas Members will " go and do likewise."

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" Sentinel " in the Morning Post has recently given us two magnifi-
cent essays on the spirit of true patriotism, in both of which Kipling
looms large. One, " Radio-Activitity of the English Spirit" (25th May
1935), takes up the cudgels for the ideals expressed in the introduction
to " A Song of the English." These sentences may be commended to
the Little Englander :— " Freedom as a commonsense combination
of liberty and legality—that is a practical conception, demonstrated
urbi et orbi, which is the Englishman's best gift to his fellow creatures.
Who can deny his right—his divine right, if you will—to have painted
a quarter of the world's map the colour of his blood, when his unique
services to humanity are considered. For all he has won for himself and
those he protects has been bought with his life." Kipling's share in
the building of " the vast still-growing Commonwealth " is thus describ-
ed :—" But no other poet, living or dead, has ever appealed as powerfully
as Kipling to the people of the Dominions. From the time when his
ballad of the English flag appeared (to be proudly praised by Tennyson)
he has been inspired to express their secret thoughts in verse which
unlike that of the ' Georgians ' and their successors, has the quality of

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memorableness. His unique position as the living voice of a world-
wide commonwealth has been recognised not only in America but also
by French and German critics. A Canadian friend tells me that when
ever he is thinking over any problem of Imperial statesmanship he con-
sults Kipling's poems, because he possesses ' the harp that couldna'
lee ' (like True Thomas the Rhymer in his Last Rhyme '), and must
be considered our one and only poet-statesman." The other essay is
equally striking ; it is called "Unknown Statesmen of the Empire,"
(4 May, 1935) and sets forth Kipling's tribute to men in subordinate
positions and poorly paid, who live up to the ideal of the British Empire :
"Who are the keepers of the King's peace in fair lands afar ? The
answer to that question can be found in Kipling's poems, which are so
often inspired by thoughts of the men who secretly, silently build
their lives into the still-growing fabric of our world-wide Commonwealth.
They are men of works, not words, who have exchanged their mother-
land for a mistress-land." As our readers will know, Kipling's work is
full of character sketches of men of this type who "know not the politici-
an's arts of self-advertisement, they do not court Demos, they seem to
shun the most profitable publicity." Men of this kind are described
in tales like " On the City Wall," " Little Foxes," and many more ;
they get no praise if all goes well, and they take all the blame if the least
little thing goes wrong.

XXX

So it seems that the oft-promised Kipling films are really going to
be shown (released is the term, we believe) in the near future. Parts of
" Soldiers Three "—60,000 feet of film—have already reached England,
so the Film Weekly informs us, and adds : " Kipling himself has
helped to prepare the film story. His assistance has been given un-
officially, but Walter Forde is hoping that in the end, he will be able to
feature the author's name on the credit titles as collaborator on the
screen adaptation." We can well understand that Mr. Kipling was
interested in the book of the film, or something like the following
(culled from another paper) might have appeared in the script :—
" Arthur Hornblow (Junior) looking pleased with himself yesterday.
Reason not far to seek, being that over the weekend he'd been in a
huddle with Rudyard Kipling, and got the complete and final okay on
the script of ' The Light That Failed.' One shudders to think of one
of Kipling's beautiful and appropriate language being translated into
something like the above, which type still appears in certain films.

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From an excerpt dated 24 March we gather that The Freethinker
does not approve of Kipling's religious views, on which some strange
comments are made :—" Of all the hundreds of gods created by men
in their own likeness, the Anglo-Indian deity of Mr. Kipling is the
most astonishing. . . . Mr. Kipling will live as a literary artist, but
his attitude as a philosophical thinker is unimpressive. In plain lan-
guage, his intellectual position is simply that if acquiescence with
current theology and conventional morality. ... In religions
speculations Mr. Kipling never launches out into the deep." There is
much more in the same strain ; we wonder if the writer of this article
has ever really read Kipling, for the last thing to say about him would
be that he is acquiescent of current theology and conventional morality.
One would have thought that the little poem, " The Two-Sided Man,"
was sufficiently broad in outlook to acquit its author being conventional.

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In London recently there was sold one of the few Kipling poems that
was rejected by a paper. The Journal in question was Blighty, a magazine
distributed free to the troops during the War. The poem was probably
too amusing for the excellent committee who ran this paper, so they
asked Mr. Kipling to make a number of alterations ; he very naturally
refused, so the poem, " Sons of the Suburbs," never saw the light.
There was no harm in it, though plenty of innocent fun ; doubtless the
proprietors of this paper were of the same type as the hospital visitors
who distributed virtuous but not very thrilling literature to the men
catalogued by them as " the soldiers !"

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One of our Life Members, Mr. Alexander Woolcott, who is des-
cribed as the King of Story Tellers and the greatest journalist in
America, has lately been writing for the English Press. We of the
Society owe him a welcome, not only on his merits as a writer, but as
the author of a remarkable broadcast in New York about the Society
and its doings.

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Kipling's works are still prime favourites in France. Another trans-
lation has just been brought out—" Rewards and Fairies "—under
the excellent title of " Le Retour de Puck." The English name of the
book is a quotation and from its nature quite untranslatable. As its
well known, French literary critics place Kipling at the top when dis-
cussing English literature.    The Liverpool Daily Post of May 13th

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gives some striking evidence of this :—" M. Claude Farrére, another
Academician, has read Kipling's ' Kim ' ten times every year for the
last thirty years. And M. Francis Carco declares that the English are
wrong in not placing Kipling on the highest summit of all." The
Evening News of April 1lth gives an even more decided opinion from M.
Henri Bernstein :—" It always amazes me thatt English people, especi-
ally the most distinguished English writers and critics, find it so
difficult to say who is your greatest living writer, and then mostly name
the wrong one. All over the Continent, among those with whom I
come into contact, I get an immediate answer when I ask who is the
greatest living English writer. It is Rudyard Kipling, and I cannot
imagine how you yourselves do not know it. Apart altogether from
his immense literary skill, he is a great man, a prophet. It is amazing
that because he is the prophet of the British Empire his own country
should regard him less highly than we do." Mr. Kipling has pointed
out in one of his poems that it is the lot of a prophet to be undervalued
in his own country.

We must look to ourselves here in England in this matter, for even
in Soviet Russia Kipling's children's books are very popular.

Kipling and the Sea.
By Commander O. Locker-Lampson, c.m.g., d.s.o., r.n.v.r., m.p.

IT is the fate of lecturers to apologise for the inadequacy of their
equipment and to plead ignorance of their subject. I should
occupy my full allotted time if I fell a victim to this convention.
Yet in passing I cannot but observe with bated breath, that in aspiring
to lecture about "Kipling and the Sea" I lack not merely the necessary
critical detachment : I have besides no fundamental acquaintance with
the liquid portions of the globe. Alas, my 'sea service' in the War
was done in the air and on the ground, and only casually along the wet
highways of the world. So that I can bring little expert knowledge and
almost as little first-hand experience—unless it be of sickness—to my
study of the sea.

Yet my essay need not, therefore, be of no account. The unambigu-
ous reactions of the amateur may be more authoritative than the sifted
impressions of the professor. Highbrows are too chilly to give back
first-hand experience with natural force. Surely you, whom I address
to-day are not highbrow. Nor, of course, can you be low-brow.
You appear to occupy a more blessed midway state of intelligence

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and feeling : and in saying that I am not only telling the truth—a rare
virtue in lecturers—but taking the advice of a canny friend who tells
me to get on the good side of an audience—by a little early flattery.

And now, brother bigots of the Kipling cult, fellow faithful of the
Law and Jungle, let us clear our minds of cant and see where we are.
Kipling the student of sea-goers is not a different writer to Kipling the
student of shore-goers. I find his basic attitude to both to be derived
from identical points of view, from similar prejudices, if you will.
He reveals in both cases his aggressive contempt for the dilettante and
mere dreamer, his hatred for the lounger through life. And remember
that this response at the outset was personal. For he happened to be
born into the artificial age of Aubrey Beardsley and was a relative of
the very Burne-Jones whose dieaway darlings were filling the expensive
walls of contemporary London, Kipling was a living witness of the
languorous and scented generation of Oscar Wilde : and I chuckle over
his early protest against decadence in the sea-poem, " The Mary
Gloucester :"

" Harrer and Trinity College : and I ought to ha' sent you to sea.
But I stood you an education, and what have you done for me ?
For you muddled with books and pictures, and china and etchings and fans,
And your rooms at College was beastly, more like a whore's than a man's."

No wonder Wilde thought Kipling vulgar.

I like occasionally to creep up to the modern young aesthete and to
whisper those salutary words in his ear.

Now if Kipling hates the drifter and do-nothing, it follows that he
loves work. And note that Kipling prefers work even to the worker.
Men matter more than man. Humans are of more account than
humanity. Why, he calls one of his books " The Day's Work," and
story after story and song after song tells the glory of discipline and
labour. That is why some critics have thought of him as the Philistine
philosopher of force. Yet at its worst his is only a summons to duty
and to stoicism under trial and shame and obloquy. And were not
these qualities wanted by a frivolous world dancing its Jadarene gallop
down the swine slopes into the World War? And if these qualities
are necessary to Kipling's characters whose venue is land, how much
more essential when it is water. For to sailors the background is not
the relatively safe and immobile earth, but the ruthless, shifting sea,
the cannibal of the elements who devours her most loyal and brave.

Now Kipling goes to sea more and more as he advances from the
early rôle, which he set himself of champion of the Services.    He

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first glorified the soldier or civil servant or engineer ashore, and turns
later only to sailors and their medium. It is later that he sings the
significance of steam and oil. as once he sang that of horse and wheel i
and here I offer one general observation. The body of Kipling's
poems does not stand upon so high a level as the prose. There is more
prose which carries the radium of immortality. The " jungle Books,"
for instance will survive all but a few verses : and when it comes to the
sea, then even his best rhymed seascapes will not outlast some prose
legends of the sea. Not that any sea story is quite up to the best of
his fiction. None approaches perhaps '' The Miracle of Purun Bhagat,
or " They " in spiritual import. But in the case of the traditional
wonder yarn, which beguiled before Homer, and will as long again,
because it is 'marvellous,' then some sea fables cannot be beaten upon
their ground. And here let me admit this : I prefer the earlier sketches.
The most ambitious of Kipling's books is a later sea story, " Captains
Courageous." This all but one attempt in long storytelling deals
only with the sea. While the theme is again the ugliness of sloth and
the glory of hardship and work ; it is lush with jargon and slang and
technical terms packed together like hard cake. It has miraculous
moments, and there are descriptions from it and from " Letters of
Travel," which are unforgettable :—

" A man in blood-red jersey and long boots, all shining with
moisture, stands at the bows holding up the carcase of a silver-bellied
sea-otter from whose pelt the wet drips in moonstones."

Yet it falls short of the unconscious and Homeric simplicity of other
records of the sea. There is nothing about the sea in "Plain Tales"
I think ; but there is indeed in " Many Inventions." Oh, why have
all of us read so much Kipling already ; and got him by heart ? You
know already what I am leading up to. If we might all come new to
this volume and record its first impact. There is not an Arabian
Night more full of witchery than " The Finest Story in the World,"
nor a true tale as likely as " A Matter of Fact." On rising from their
perusal we feel it all happened. Just as the talk of the Roman legion-
aires on the wall in " Puck " might have been overheard and taken down
by a contemporary reporter : these stories really must be the words of
an eye-witness. It is the cold truth. The fabulous has never yet
been made so actual.

Kipling, as we all know, is omniscient and ubiquitous : and from
early days was fascinated by previous incarnation and galley life.    His

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" Brushwood Boy " indicates this, and his early poem on the galley
slave. Yet neither this poem nor the " Song of the Red War-Boat "
compare to his prose evocation of the past. They remain a tour-de-
forte ; while that is a real record. He never wrote of anything with surer
sorcery than when he asks, do you remember, what the water-line
looks like ? And who could imitate the matter-of-fact embodiment of
the sea-serpent spewed up from the soundless deeps, and the rush
through whispering walls of water of the blind mate to its rescue.

Kipling, of course, was not there in either case. Yet he pictures it
with greater verisimilitude than the fishing Banks, in " Captains
Courageous " or conditions he has seen. This goes to prove the medi-
ocrity of those critics who will have it that Shakespeare was a lawyer
and school master, and tinker and bootmaker, when all he was (and
enough) was a creative genius who could convert at second-hand trivial
events and ill-expressed experience into golden facts and fancies.

I never cared much for " A Fleet in Being," and in retrospect it
seems topical journalese ; and I think the " Ship that Found Herself "
and " .007 " heavy going, and as for the sea poems, few compare to
" Barrack Room Ballads " in reality of ring. " The Sea and the Hills "
is over-conscious, and the " Anchor Song " a tangle, and " Mulholl-
ands' Contract " and " Cruisers and Destroyers " the technical exalta-
tion of the minutiae of machinery, rather than poems. '' White Horses ''
is powerful, and the " Last Chantey " biblical and impressive. The
best is " The Long Trail," listen to the ever haunting magic of the
beginning :—

There's a whisper down the field where the year has shot her yield,

And the ricks stand grey to the sun,

Singing :    " Over then, come over, for the bee has quit the clover,
And your English summer's  done."

Let us remember, too, one ocean ode which those who denounce
Kipling for a jingo are careful to forget. I mean " The Deep-Sea
Cables :"

They have wakened the timeless Things ; they have killed their Father Time
Joining hands in the gloom, a league from the last of the sun.
Hush !    Men talk to-day o'er the waste of the ultimate slime,
And a new Word runs between : whispering, " Let us be one !"

That at least is no ignoble invocation of narrow nationalism : but
a pure appeal to cosmic unity.

One more general observation in passing. A poet lives by reason of
his poetry, and his politics have rarely survival value. With Kipling
be it noted, politics have often been paramount.    He has (and who can

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blame him ?) wantonly adopted doggerel in which to meet or express
understandably the popular sentiment of the moment. He stood out
first as the interpreter of India ; then he became M.P. for England :
and last, he was the Oracle of Empire, the bard of the Epic of Overseas.
He was called upon to lead—as no man of letters ever led—a land in
song ; and he spoke even for the White World in sea poems like " The
White Man's Burden." He spoke for more than the White world, for
the Wide World in the " Recessional."

When politicians funked Prussia and diplomats begged us not to
offend the Kaiser by speaking the truth, this manful patriot knew no
fear. With lonely vision he challenged in a sea song, " The Rowers "
(1902) the British alliance with Germany, " the open foe," and he follow-
ed it by " The Declaration of London " (1911), in which he foresaw
the reality of contraband conditions for our merchant shipping in the
war. He was forever preaching preparedness afloat ; and we were
impregnable (at sea at any rate) in 1914, not because a Liberal Govern-
ment held the helm, but because Rudyard would not cease from Kipling
at whatever cost.

And now I must bring my casual comments to a finish. Kipling
is not all that he might be. Who is ? Still less is he all that some
bores want him to be. He does not picture life in eccentric cubes and
circles. His notion of woman does not happen to be that of Rima in
the Park, nor is his conception of God an anthropoid subman. He
has, therefore, his limitations. They complain that he never grew up
and remains a boy speaking to boys. There cannot be an imaginative
writer of merit of whom this might not be true. Scott never grew up
nor Dumas, nor Dickens nor Homer. It is by virtue of their eternal
boyhood that they survive.

Nor is the charge that Kipling remains immune to modern thought
movements more on the mark. Homer was not democratic or intro-
spective, and Kipling will not strip for his feelings in public to afford
fashion another kick, or ransack only the nasty cupboards in our minds.
He stands for a state of soul above sex, and for a natural manliness and
love of life which transcend the trivial, although more than any recent
author of standing he transmutes the lowliest to the loftiest purposes
of an art which at its best challenges comparison with the best.

DISCUSSION

In opening the discussion after the lecture, Lord Moynihan said:—
" I have had a great disappointment to-night ; I can find so little in what

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Commander Locker-Lampson has said with which I can quarrel. His
tastes seem to be so approximate to my own that the divergence is
infinitesimal. I liked very much what was said about the creative
imagination, but I quarrel with him when he says that Kipling was not
there. Of course Kipling was there ! Not physically, but the material
part of us is surely the most insignificant. The real things in life are
the things of the spirit. In the finest song that ever was written, you
remember how he tells of Ozimandias, King of Kings. Of great
Ozimandias nothing now remains but a few broken fragments crumbled
to ruins. It is the spirit that is immortal. It is the spirit in the finest
story in the world, and Kipling's spirit was united in that finest story
in the world—it is "The Brushwood Boy." Of all the stories ever
written that is the one I read oftenest and love most. It contains the
truth of all the stories ever written. I just tickled all over when I read
that. I tickle still ! But that is the great charm of Kipling. You
can love nearly everything that he ever wrote and you may differ in
opinion from those whose taste and judgment is finer than your own.
I have been agreeing with everything that Commander Locker-Lamp-
son has ever said, and yet differing—and it is just that difference which
makes that appeal to me. I must take this chance of thanking him
from a most appreciative heart for his address to-night. I shall
glory in the reading of it, and I am sure I can allocate to myself a
collective responsibility and for all of you listening here to-night say
' Thank you very much.' "

Mr. J. C. Beresford. " I am afraid I cannot bear witness that
the Kipling at school was anything like the wonderful heroical colour
we have in the grand self-sacrificing ideas which he has set forth to the
world. He was rather the other way round. He must have explored
in his life the really lazy aspect of things. He never strained himself
to undertake any task to which he was not inclined. As a boy, up to
the age of 16, he was a kind of chrysalis, not a bit like the butterfly.
I suppose it was all brewing inside him. I should like to be able to
bear witness that he was a very strong, outside sort of schoolboy. If
he had been, he would have been Head Prefect and Captain of Games.
As a matter of fact, he was a very non-commissioned officer. He was
exceedingly strenuous about his own literary side, studying the masters !
School tasks were always put on one side and were not much good.
The strenuous side of School life, games and sports were put on one
side. He was always thinking what Burne-Jones would say, what
William Morris would say and took his cue from them.    When he got



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to India he was something very different. He did not think the
aesthetes were a good egg at all. He thoroughly explored the self-
indulgent side. That gives his preachments, his stoic preachments
so much force."

Major General Rimington, R.E. " I cannot say very much about
Kipling. I do not altogether agree with what Beresford has said.
Kipling distinguished himself in the School by running the School
Magazine, and he used to write excellent stuff for that. That was a
very literary business, and I think our School Magazine became famous
—some of you may have seen copies of it. It was rather high-class
when Kipling was editing it. He certainly was not keen on games,
and I never thought in those days that Kipling would become the Im-
perial Poet that he became afterwards."

Mr. B. M. Bazley, Hon. Editor. " There was a remark made
about two meetings ago that we learn a good deal from our Lectures,
and, however well one knows Kipling or his works, one always gets a
new point of view ; without flattery, we have had that to-night. It is a
very refreshing aspect, even though we do flatter ourselves we know
Kipling rather well, though not perhaps as well as we should like to ;
the more you learn the less you know ! I thought our Lecturer spoke
more of men than of man, and I daresay that war-time poem will
occur to you—'The game is more than the player of the game, and the
ship is more than the crew !' I think this came out towards the end
of the War. As to his sea poems, it is always an arguable point as to
whether Kipling's poetry will be more important than his prose. You
cannot tell. Fashions change. I am more inclined to agree with the
Lecturer that the prose is the more important—until I read something
new and say, ' Nobody else could have written this.' The poem Com-
mander Locker-Lampson quoted, " The Long Trail," has the real
swing of the sea, and if you have ever been at sea in a small old-fashioned
ship you will feel it all. One thing more : the uncollected item ' Ibbet-
son Dunn,' where he describes wonderfully—especially for a boy—a
wreck of a biggish smack on the coast ; little details of how they realise
that the end is near. The sea is getting up ; the boy is crying as he begins
to unlace his boots. I must join issue with Commander Locker-Lampson
about ' Captains Courageous.' The first time I read it I did not care
for it so much because of its very technicalities—all those bits of jargon
and sea language ; but the more one knows it, the more one appreciates
it. As for descriptions of the sea, see when they are in the fog, when
they are nearly run down by a liner, how graphic the description is.

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Harvey hears the foghorn close at hand. He sees above him the column
of Roman figures,—the first thing you notice when beside a big ship—
they were Roman figures in those days. Perhaps Kipling over-elabor-
ates as he gets older. He is more inclined to polish things—so was
Shakespeare. ' The Manner of Men ' is wonderful, but the techni-
cal sea jargon of two thousand years ago rather hangs the story up.
' A Matter of Fact,' where the old Swedish Bosun says the ship seems
to * run downhills,' shows Kipling's wonderful realisation of detail.
In ' The Finest Story in the World,' when the galley is going down,
the water seems to hang for an instant before it actually comes over
the bulwark of the ship, looking ' like a banjo-string drawn tight.' Now
I come to my main point of issue : I was hoping to hear something
about my friend Pyecroft. Marvellous as Mulvaney and his friends
are, they are not a patch on Pyecroft. ' A Tour of Inspection ' which
appeared in December, 1904, describes not only the sea but the seaman.
Pyecroft is always delightful. He appears first in ' The Bonds of Dis-
cipline ;' Pyecroft is asked by the narrator of the story what he will
drink ; he replies : —' Only water. Warm water, with a little whisky
an' sugar an' per'aps a lemon.' "

Viscountess Downe    " Don't you think that is one place where
Kipling failed ?    He never made a life-like woman, did he ?"

Lord Moynihan.    " He has the most charming daughter !"

Kipling and the Empire.
By Major-General L. C. Dunsterville, C.B., C.S.I.

I MUST apologise to you for my appearance here to-night to address
you on a subject to which, I feel, I am not qualified to do justice. I
have no wish to thrust myself into prominence in any sort of serious
literary society; I read and appreciate, but I am by no means a student.
I am not dismayed at my ignorance of the subject, because I have found,
like many others, that ignorance does not interfere with eloquence ; I
noticed not long ago an example of this when Mr. Lansbury told us all
about India.

I had hoped (/ hadn't really) that I might be able to give you some
typically bombastic quotations from Kipling that would afford the un-
usually stupid who accuse him of Jingoism some excuse for the libel. I
failed, but hit on these verses :—

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Our  Empire  is  the  finest  thing
That ever has been seen
So let our loud Hosannas ring—
We'll shake the world, I ween.

We'll crush who dare our might oppose ;
None can our power resist,
And fiercely to our trembling foes
Apply the mailed fist.

I did not believe that these lines could be fairly attributed to Kipling.
He would never have used " been seen " nor the expression, " I ween."
As a matter of fact, I wrote them myself, just to show you what I can do
when put to it; they indicate a tone that can always be heard in Central
Europe—my wireless allows me to hear such resounding phrases on
foreign stations. But the people to whom such phrases are addressed
never see how funny they are ; if any of our men addressed an audience
in this way, he would be saluted with bricks and tomatoes. You would
not like me to say, for instance :—" British blood in British veins has
carried Britain's flag throughout the world." No, thank God ! in this
Empire that is one of the things that is not done. And that brings me to my
point, which is that though Kipling's works throughout breathe the spirit
of sane and sober pride in Empire, he does not appear to have written
anything that could possibly be described as flag-waving. On the
contrary, in " Recessional " and many other pieces he warns the nations
of the Empire against any such tendency.

His message has not been to flaunt the banner of pride and defiance
in the face of other nations, but to make the Empire understand itself—
to help the various peoples under the British flag to know and appreciate
each other. In this respect he goes beyond the confines of our Empire,
writing in the same strain in regard to our cousins in the United States
of America, visualising a common outlook on world affairs between all
who speak the language of Shakespeare. That very beautiful story
" An Habitation Enforced," is an example of this. I am glad that to-
night I speak to Members from various parts of the Empire and from
the U.S.A.—a group of English-speaking peoples. In bringing us all
together like this, on the common ground of admiration for our great
writer, our Society is performing a function which, I consider, even
transcends its literary merits.

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Kipling has always stressed the need for those within the Empire
getting to know each other better ; speaking to the Canadian Club of
Winnipeg in 1907, he said :—" I have, I confess it now, done my best for
about twenty years to make all the men of the sister nations within
the Empire interested in each other. Because I know that at heart all
our men are pretty much alike, in that they have the same problems,
the same aspirations, and the same loves, and the same hates : and when all
is said and done, we have only each other to depend upon." For my-
self, I am just as far as Kipling from any desire to wave our glorious
flag in the face of other less-favoured nations. I have looked at the
matter from their point of view and, in my regard for their feelings, al-
most felt a desire to wrap the Union Jack up for a bit and hide it in a bag.

During the Boxer War in China, 35 years ago, I was with the British
contingent of the international army which took the field. I had several
friends among the officers of the German contingent, one of whom
freely unburdened himself to me of his dislike for our flag : he described
how, on the voyage out, wherever they called or saw land, there was
always the Union Jack flying—Dover, Gibraltar, Malta, the Suez
Canal, Aden, Colombo, Singapore and Hong-Kong, ending with the
British concession in Tientsin. Another thing that annoyed him was the
badge of my regiment, which carries, referring to the China War in
1860, the words " China, 1860—Taku Forts;" not being aware at first
that this was about our fifth expedition in China, he thought it referred
to the present operations, in which Taku had again been taken. He
said that we were very smart at advertising our military power ; I
asked him to look at the date !

At Tongku I was in charge of the railway and senior British officer, so
my duties were varied and complicated ; being international, these in-
volved a great deal of alcoholic refreshment, at which I was able to
keep my end up without difficulty, though no discussion on international
affairs took place without much health-drinking. I wonder if the num-
erous round-table conferences of the League of Nations are conducted on
the same lines ? As most of them prove abortive, I can only imagine
that the proceedings are conducted on a basis of lime-juice, a beverage
that is not likely to conduce to harmony. I would refuse to sign any
agreement with anybody on such a foundation.

I have already stressed the point that Kipling's aim has been, not
defiance of other nations but a proper understanding among ourselves,
and this we know is being steadily achieved. But the English people
have never been Imperial-minded ;   in the heart of this great Empire

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service abroad is actually taken to count against a man—those who have
never gone outside these small islands being preferred for employment
above those who have gained experience overseas. I leave you to
think out examples for yourselves.

At the Banquet of the Royal Society of St. George this year Mr.
Kipling gave us a splendid speech, but as this was an exclusively
English gathering he made no direct reference to Imperial matters ex-
cept in the stern warning as to the necessity for an immediate increase
in our armed forces, that they should be ready as ever, not to go to
war for the sake of war, but to maintain peace.

In conclusion let me tell you a little story, which may excuse my
own shortcomings as a lecturer. The private soldier often expresses
things very neatly. I remember at a Soldiers' Concert a man making
three efforts to sing. The accompanist had to keep on beginning again.
At last the fellows at the back began ragging him, and he lost his temper ;
he took two steps to the front of the stage and said :—" If any of you —
think you can do this better than I can, you can jolly well come up and
do it !"    I say the same ! !

DISCUSSION

Mr. G. C. Beresford : "Of course, Kipling is a Jingo, but by the
definition, ' We don't want to fight, but by Jingo if we do !' A Jingo
is quite a respectable person. He is not a Chauvinist. A Jingo is a
person who will prudently defend himself against aggression. Kip-
ling, of course, does not rush people on. He only appeals by suggestion.
He is a Jingo and a Patriot by suggestion, by implication, attitude and
atmosphere. He does not say so himself in words. Like Agag, he walks
delicately. The reason is, of course, because he began rather the other
way round. He was under the influence of Burne-Jones who was rather
a ' Little Englander,' a Pro-National in Ireland and would have been a
Pro-Boer if he had lived. Kipling had the huge advantage of looking
at the other side of the question. He knew it in all its moods and
tenses and knew what the answers were. He does not rush in where
Jingos fear to tread. He does not use the words ' glory,' ' pain ' and
' honour ' very much, and he never refers to Waterloo ! If you
want to know the other side of the question you had better read Newbolt
who revels in fame and glory. Kipling is a more delicate person and
much more artistic. The secret of his influence over a restrained
people like the English is that he goes very quietly and gets it over by
looking at both sides of the question.    If you read Kipling's work in

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that spirit you will understand him more than you ever did before.

Mr. B. M. Bazley: " I think our President has given us pretty
much Kipling's idea, but in his own words. The ' Little Englander '
attacks Kipling because he has the gift of the right word, and you cannot
waive him away. These people have never read some of Kipling's
quieter stuff where he gives us very much the same kind of thing as our
President, said to-night. He begins in ' Stalky and Co.,' with that
lovely story ' The Flag of their Country,' the rebuke to the talker.
That is the particular point that he drops on. ' The Absent-Minded
Beggar ' is screamed at, and yet the second line of that is a most delicious
hit at the loud and vulgar and merely talkative patriot. ' When you've
finished killing Kruger with your mouth.' Kipling's type of man did
not do this.

With regard to the Empire and what the President has told us all
to-night, of course, in some way we were there first. While our Empire
was expanding Europe was going through various phases and started a
little late. Some of our French friends—M. Davray and M. Maurois—
have told us that for a long time they did not bother about these things—
Empires and things like that—and yet the French Empire now is not
very much short of the British. Germany late in the day began
to recognise her Colonies. Germany has got what we have not got—
a set of postage stamps illustrating four of her state colonisers. Italy is
equally busy. There is some gift-—and Kipling notes this—that holds
the Empire together ; we are lucky in having a writer like Kipling. The
main thing, I think, is absence of talk. The President has given to-
night one or two remarks in which he comments on that undue amount
of talk. Well, of course, one thing we have got and I believe only one
other race has it—the Chinese—a delicate sense of humour. We see
the ridiculous side of a thing very quickly, where certain other nations
do not. They are are rather too serious. I cannot imagine any other
nation producing a 'Bai-Jove-Judson.' It is a very lucky thing that at
the time when Kipling was writing during the time of Empire expansion
when Queen Victoria was on the throne, that her name was not the same
as the late Empress of Japan.    Her name was Jingo ! !"

Mr. J. H. C. Brooking : "I think I am speaking for everybody here
when I say we all appreciate not only General Dunsterville's speech
and information about Kipling and the Empire, but also his own experi-
ences all over the Empire. I feel sure a number of people must know
that General Dunsterville has written a number of books—'Stalky's

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Reminiscences,' 'More Stalky Reminiscences,' 'Still More Stalky Re-
miniscences. ' If those of you who have not read those books have enjoy-
ed his remarks, I am sure you will still more enjoy his printed remarks.
He mentioned among other things incidents in the " Dunsterforce."
This is supposed to be a record of war. It is really the record of some
gigantic practical jokes General Dunsterville played upon the Turks.

Lieutenant-General  Sir G. F. MacMunn also spoke and told
several very amusing anecdotes.

The Annual Conference and Luncheon.

MINUTES of the Ninth Annual Conference   of   the   Society,
held on Thursday, 13th June, 1935, at 12 noon in the Rembrandt
Rooms,   Thurloe   Place,   South   Kensington,   S.W.7., Major-
General L. C. Dunsterville, C.B., C.S.I. (President), in the Chair.

1.    Report.    The President mentioned that the Report had been cir-
culated to all concerned, and it was adopted as read.

The Live Register comprised 724 Members, including 490 in the
United Kingdom and 234 overseas. Life Members numbered 71,
and " Donor " Members 42. Although the Society continued to hold
its own the upward trend was slow. While they may not desire to make
it a large society, it was desirable that membership should be increased
to say 1,000. Since the printing of the Report the Victoria (B.C.)
Branch had increased its membership to 15 ; they hope soon to reach
20.

Council had decided to increase the number of meetings next
Session, making five Ordinary instead of four.

2.    Election of President and Members of Council Retiring by Rotation.
The President announced that, in accordance with the rules of the
Society the conference was asked to elect certain officers of the Society
who were retiring by rotation, and the first of these was the President.

(a) The President. Lieutenant Sir George MacMunn proposed
that the retiring President, Major General L. C. Dunsterville, be re-
elected for the year.

" We are," he said, " extraordinarily lucky to have him with us to-
day. It is said that old soldiers never die, and here he is again as full
of life as ever and in quite his old form. I think it would be a dis-
aster if we did not have him this year and for many years after." Mr.
Austen Hall seconded the resolution, and it was unanimously carried.

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2 (b). Members of Council. The following members of Council
who retired in rotation on 31st March, 1935, offered themselves for
re-election :—Sir Francis Goodenough, Mr. J. H. C. Brooking and
Mr. J. R. Turnbull. Mrs. Frizelle seconded Mr. Grierson's proposal
that the retiring members be re-elected, with effect from 1st April, 1935,
and the proposal was carried unanimously.

(3) Confirmation of Appointments. (a) Vice Presidents. The follow-
ing having been co-opted as Vice-Presidents of the Society under
Rule VIII were to be confirmed in that office, vis : The Right Hon.
Lord Ampthill, the Earl of Moray and His Excellency Mr. Robert
Bingham.

(b)    Member   of   Council  (ex-officio).    The   President   said,   with
reference to Rule VIII (d), the Council desired confirmation of their
action in having deemed the words " on Council for Library questions
only " after " Hon. Librarian " to be in abeyance during the period that
Mr. W. G. B. Maitland holds the appointment as " Hon. Librarian."

(c)    Executive   Officers.    The executive  officers  as  appointed  by
the Council under Rule VII (d) for the year commencing 1st April 1935
to be confirmed in their appointments.    They were :—

The Hon. Treasurer—Lt.-General Sir George MacMunn.

The Hon. Librarian—Mr. W. G. B. Maitland.

The Hon. Editor—Mr. B. M. Bazley

The Hon. Solicitor—Mr. C. A. Cusse.

The Secretary,—Colonel C. Bailey

Mr. A. E. O. Slocock said he had great pleasure in proposing the
confirmation of all the appointments under (a) and (c) as co-opted, or
made, and the action taken under (b) by Council, and mentioned that
the administration had been difficult work ; this was seconded by Mr.
F. W. Mackenzie-Skues, and carried unanimously.

(4). Accounts for the year ended 3lst March, 1935. The President
said that these had been circulated and also that the remarks contained
in paragraph 10 of the Annual Report had also been read. He invited
the Hon. Treasurer and others to make any remarks they wish to make.
The Hon. Treasurer, Lt.-General Sir George MacMunn then said :—

" Your accounts are, for the present satisfactory. You have £300
invested and since the Report was printed another £119 has also been
invested in Government paper. Your investments, however, only
cover the money that has been paid in advance by Life Members and
those who had paid a year or so ahead ; of this between £40 or £50
as you will see in the Accounts, is recredited each year to make up your

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income from subscriptions. Unless, therefore, your subscribers in-
crease, this amount will slowly be amortised. If you get more Life
Members it rises again. In the meantime you have plenty of assets, while
you try and increase your membership. You will note that the cost of
your lunch is shown in full on one side, and the value of the tickets sold
in full on the other. By changing our Printers the cost of the Journal
and the Secretary's Printing and stationery is considerably reduced.
Your sale of Bookplates brings in a profit."

(5) Proposed Amendments to the Rules. The President asked the
Secretary to read the proposed amendments. The proposals were
discussed, and the Secretary explained when necessary and replied
to queries. It was then proposed by Lt.-Colonel E. A. Breithaupt,
and seconded by Mr. A. A. Hutchinson, that these amendments be
approved : this was carried unanimously.

No further remarks having been made by any member present,
the President thanked Sir George MacMunn for helping the Assembly
understand the Accounts, which, as Sir George explained, showed the
Society as rather more prosperous than it really was, but he said that we
were not in the category of a public or Limited Liability Company.
He read paragraph 1 of Rule II, and pointed out that the accounts
had been audited by Messrs. Milne, Gregg and Turnbull, who are
satisfied as to the actual correctness of our figures. He did not con-
sider it necessary to make any alteration in the method of presenting
the accounts, though the Hon. Treasurer's remarks should be borne in
mind. The President then moved that the Annual Report and the
accounts as circulated and audited, be taken as read and adopted.
This was seconded by Mr. John Sanderson and carried unanimously.
(6) Miscellaneous Business. The President proposed that a vote of
thanks for services rendered to the Society should be recorded to all who
had helped in any way during the year.

Referring to Mr. B. M. Bazley, who continued his excellent work as
Hon. Editor of the Kipling Journal, Major-General Dunsterville said
many letters were received from overseas in appreciation, and they were
all very grateful to him. Mr. W. G. B. Maitland had done keen and
efficient work as Librarian, and was always ready to come forward and
help the Society in other ways. Then there was Mr. A. E. O. Slocock,
a " Life " Member. They were extremely grateful to him for the help
he had always given by his generous donation to the funds of the Society.

In the United States there was Mr. Carl Naumburg, who deserved
particular thanks for his unselfish work on behalf of the Society, carried

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on under strenuous circumstances, and thanks were due, too, to his
several helpers in the U.S.A. In addition, the President said, he could
not praise too much the work of the Hon. Treasurer and Chairman of
the Council, Lt.-General Sir George MacMunn. They were all
grateful to him for his work and interest in the Society. Then there was
the Secretary, who worked very much harder than the members could
realise, and all thanks were due to Colonel Bailey. As President of the
Society he thanked all who had helped in any way. The vote of thanks
was seconded by Mr. G. E. Fox, and carried unanimously amid applause.

Under the heading " Any other business " Colonel Milburn asked
the Council to consider whether it would be desirable for the next
annual meeting to make arrangements for one or more speeches after
the luncheon to be broadcast. He thought it would be greatly to the
advantage of the Society.

The President thought the idea a good one, and such a broadcast
would be of advantage to the Society and to the world in general. This
idea will be considered by Council.

Major-General J. D. McLachlan then proposed a vote of thanks to
the Chairman of the Conference. This was passed unanimously,
with much applause, and the gathering broke up.

(Signed)    L. C. Dunsterville,
Major-General,    President and Chairman.

THE LUNCHEON

THE Society's ninth annual luncheon was held at the Rembrandt
Rooms, Thurloe Place, S.W.7., on Thursday, the  13th of June,
1935.     The   guests   being   received   by   the President, Major-
General L. C. Dunsterville.

Although the gathering was not quite so large as last year, it was
evident that the same enthusiasm for the aims and objects of the Society
reigned. Few Westward Ho! members and guests were able to attend,
and this fact accounted for the decrease in numbers. However,
distinguished guests sat by the president as in previous years, including :

Monsieur Erik Colban, the Norwegian Minister;
The Right Hon. Lord Ampthill, G.C.S.I., G.C.I.E. (Vice-President);
Baron C. Leijonhufvud, Counsellor of the Swedish Legation;
The Right Hon. Lord Rennell, G.C.B., G.C.M.G., G.C.V.O, (v.p.);
Lieut.-General Sir Sidney Clive, k.c.b.,  c.m.g.,  d.s.o.,   Marshal  of the
Diplomatic Corps ;

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Lieut.-General Sir George MacMunn, k.c.b., k.c.s.i., d.s.o. (v.p.);

General Sir Alexander J. Godley, G.C.B., K.C.M.G., A.D.C.(v.p.);

Mr. C. E. Aagard, Attaché at the Danish Legation;

Commander O. Locker-Lampson, c.m.g., d.s.o., R.N.V.R., M.P. (v.p.);

Sir Francis Goodenough, C.B.E. (v.p.);

Major-General J. D. McLachlan, C.B., c.m.g., d.s.o. (v.p.);

Colonel C. H. Milburn, o.b.e., d.l., j.p., m.d. (v.p.);

Mr. J. H. C. Brooking (Founder);

Colonel Sir A. Holbrook, Bart., K.B.E., j.p., d.i., v.d. (v.p.);

Lady Cunynghame (v.p.);

Mrs. Alec Tweedie (v.p.).

Luncheon was served at 1.15, and the Rev. H. P. Kennedy Skipton,
F.S.A., F.R.Hist.Soc, said Grace. When lunch was finished the
President proposed the toast of " The King."

Lord Rennell, in proposing "Rudyard Kipling," said:—"When I
was invited by your indefatigable secretary to make what should be,
but I am afraid will not be, a rhetorical effort worthy of this occasion,
my first reaction—I believe that transatlanticism is generally accepted—
was an inclination to ask to be excused in favour of some younger and
more competent enthusiast who had all the apposite quotations on the
tablets of his memory. But on reflection 1 came to the conclusion that
it was probably the last opportunity that could ever be afforded to my-
self to offer a testimony of my regard, and, I hope I may say, affection,
to one who, though I seldom see him now, remains always with me as
an inspiration, a philosopher and a friend.

The friendship is really an old one. It began a little over 40 years ago,
in fact it was in 1894 that I first met Rudyard Kipling on one of those
rare occasions when he could be induced to take part in a social function
at an extremely interesting dinner party given by—as they were then—
Lord and Lady Granby. The small company included a certain
number of interesting personalities associated with my early years—
Arthur Balfour, George Curzon, Harry Cust, and a number of the most
brilliant figures in London. I had only just recently returned from
stirring times in East Africa, when Uganda was three months walk from
the coast, and when the future of that great continent was still undeter-
mined. Now in our rapidly contracting world, when there is so little
left for exploration, when the conquest of the air is lifting the last veil
of mystery from the unknown world, I suppose it will not be so easy
for the younger generation to understand the eagerness with which we
then tried to escape from a convention which was much firmer then
than it is to-day, and try and find something to do for the country at
the ends of the earth. Youth of to-day would hardly understand that,
because the adventurous spirit has to find other outlets.    We have

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finished building our house of empire in which he played so distin-
guished a part.

Its foundations are, I hope, well established, and, such as it is, we
must live in it now and hereafter without much prospect of any further
exploration. But I well remember, and looking round I see there are
many here to-day who also must remember, what it meant to us to
realise that the soul of an adventurous and rather inarticulate people had
found a Voice which they subconsciously felt expressed their feelings.
It is perhaps those very people who are least articulate themselves who
can respond most quickly to the voice that expresses for them those
feelings which they convert into action. At any rate, I think it has
been given to few to speak so directly and so stirringly to so many of
his countrymen.

You will all still remember a former Jubilee when Kipling was
stirred to write a great psalm for the Nation, a national psalm. He has
lived to see another Jubilee after one of the greatest epics in our history,
in happier times. Perhaps there might not have been occasion for
another stirring message from Kipling's pen. At least, when I look
around the world and see in other lands from boyhood upwards the
youth of the country being trained with gliders and so on, and the
children being trained in patriotism and devotion, and when I see
so much of our energies being devoted to collecting ballot papers
saying that we prefer war to the League of Nations, I sometimes
wonder if we do not want another stirring message. But, as Kipling
says himself, that is another story.

It is not only to his own countrymen that his wide humanity appeals ;
I think almost everywhere where his language can be understood he
has a wide public. I have been surprised to find how extremely
popular his books are in the Latin countries. Of course you don't
expect a foreigner to understand why we consider Kipling holds a high
place among the big poets of his own land. In the present phase of
events perhaps even we of the older generation find it difficult to
derive the same pleasure from the subtle expressions of fugitive thought
gravitating towards obscureness, and the abandonment of form in
modern poetry. We prefer the lucid sanity and the mystery of craft of
Rudyard Kipling. I think one must admit that every generation will
have its own poetry, and perhaps the poetry it deserves, but out of all
these successive phases the works that survive will be, 1 think, always
those which have the quality of imagination and the virtue of humanity.
Critics are still very busy separating the Romantics from the Realists

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and the former are spoken of with a slight accent of depreciation like
the Age of Chivalry as an interesting survival out of touch with the
modern world. But they forget that the true poet must have vision
and never lose hold of his grasp on life. These are the two qualities
which seem to me to be pre-eminent in Kipling's verse.

I have already detained you far too long. There is so much to be
said about him that I am quite sure nothing else I say is going to be of
use. I have just tried to put before you in very simple language,
without hyperbole, one or two of the characteristics of Kipling which
have always commanded my homage, and I will therefore ask you in
conclusion in our own parabolical way to drink to the health of the apostle
of Empire, the interpreter of the British, and the great artist who, in
his own language has drawn " the things as he sees it for the God of
Things as They Are !"

Lieutenant-General Sir George F. MacMunn proposed " The
Guests: "—" It is my great privilege once again to welcome our guests
as I have been privileged to do in the last two or three years. This year
we have first of all as our principal guest my old friend and comrade
General Sir Sidney Clive, who, as you know is Marshal of the Diplomatic
Corps, an appointment on which perhaps depends the good feeling
of the diplomatic circle as much as any other. We had asked also this
Jubilee Year the Dominion Premiers, but they have either gone back
or were unable to come. But we have asked to meet you to-day the
representatives of three great Northern Countries. We have Monsieur
Erik Colban, the Norwegian Minister ; Baron Leijonufvud, representing
Sweden, and we have Mr. C. E. Aagard, representing Denmark.
Many of you will remember those charming lines of Tennyson written
when the late Queen Alexandra came to this country as bride of the
Prince of Wales—" Norman and Saxon and Dane are we." I had
almost said 'and Norwegian' for they are all almost out of the same box.
We also have as guests the Headmaster of the resuscitated Westward
Ho ! and Mrs. Tollemache. Last but not least we have several of
our very good friends, the representatives of the press. They realise
as we do how Mr. Kipling writes as a great apostle, not of the arrogance
of Empire, but of our friendship with the world, and no one realises
that more, I am happy to say, than the British Press.

I now ask you to drink to the health of our Guests, to the Press, and
to couple it with the name of Monsieur Erik Colban, the Minister for
Norway."

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Monsieur Erik Colban, Norwegian Minister in London, responding,
said:—" Lord Rennell spoke about Kipling as the man who had given
voice to the intimate feelings of the British race and nations. One
would have thought that only you here in Great Britain and in the
countries overseas belonging to your Empire, would be able to under-
stand and appreciate Kipling, but, as the last speaker pointed out,
we from the northern countries of Europe also belong in a sense to
the same group of peoples, and we also understand and appreciate your
Kipling. And we also, like you, love him and think a great deal of him.
He has given to everyone of us, from childhood onwards, impressions,
something to think about, something to be mysterious about, something
to dream about. And the older we grow, the deeper we cut into his
soul and find such wonderful treasures there.

May I, on behalf of your other guests—and I think that I dare also
include those who are not from foreign countries—thank you so much,
Mr. President, for having invited us to spend a short while with you
to see how fully you are occupied with this idea of perpetuating the name
of Kipling, and of making it if possible still more familiar to the world
at large. I may tell you that in my own country, and I am sure it is
the case also in Sweden and in Denmark, of late we have once more
started reading Kipling, and the President of the Norwegian Parliament
(what you would call Mr. Speaker) has himself undertaken a trans-
lation of some of the most beautiful poetry of Kipling, so that I hope
that even as a poet Kipling will no longer be a foreigner in my own
country.    (Cheers).

Once more, the heartiest thanks on behalf of all of us for giving us a
glimpse into your work, and for allowing us an opportunity of telling
you how firmly we believe in the success of the bright, the glorious,
the yeoman, and the nationalistic ideas of which Kipling has been for
so many, many years first spokesman."

Lieutenant-General Sir Sidney Clive proposed the final toast,
" The Kipling Society and its President :"—

" Mr. President, my Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen—While I am
very sensible of the honour you have done me in asking me to propose
the toast of the Kipling Society, there is perhaps another reaction which
it causes in my mind for which I must thank you very cordially. Like
my fellow guests I have enjoyed an excellent luncheon in very delightful
company, but to me you have given—shall I call it ?—a sauce piquante
to the menu in the shape of a thrill of excitement. For I think that
anyone, even the most hardened politician, would experience a thrill of

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that sort when asked to speak to an audience with whom he is un-
acquainted on a subject of which he knows nothing ! (Laughter)
And so, knowing nothing, I should like to introduce the toast by
referring to the impression that drives itself into my mind, and that is
its unique character. Is there any other writer, musician, artist, the
value of whose work has been so appreciated while he was still in the
full flower of his middle age, in such a way as to suggest the formation
of a society such as this ? Then on reflection one sees the raison
d'etre of this society, which is that the writings themselves have a
timeless character, and so one receives the impression that this society
seems to be a denial of the ordinary sequence of the Past, the Present,
and the Future.

Mr. Kipling has depicted in his inimitable art of black and white the
British character. He has given us a series of pictures in which he has
set forth that character in relation to other forms of humanity. His
stories appeal to old and young alike, and it is that to my mind which
distinguishes his writings from those of anybody else. They are in-
deed the idylls of the British race, and we hope that what he has de-
picted will be as true hundreds of years hence as they are to-day.

The progress of the Society is remarkable, not so much for the num-
bers of its members as for the fact that they are spread over nearly
every country in the world.

I am told that when the Society started, Mr. Kipling himself was
rather against it, but he did not carry his opposition so far as to create
an anti-Kipling Society ! If he had possibly your numbers would
have been greater than they are. In any case, I understand that your
membership at home is 724, and I respectfully ask to correct that figure
to-morrow and say that the membership is 725.

This toast for the prosperity of the Kipling Society I should like to
bring to your notice, and also to drink to the health of your President,
Major-General Dunsterville as representative of the founders of the
Society. Those founders have gained distinction in many walks of
life, in fighting, in writing, and in thinking, but I venture to say that
one, and not the least, of the claims they have on the regard and grati-
tude of the Empire is that vision which enabled them to see the value
of Mr. Kipling's works for the world at large, and of the benefits which
this society would confer on their fellow citizens of the Empire. I
give you the toast of the Kipling Society and its President, Major-
General Dunsterville."

The President replied as follows :—" We have all had the pleasure

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of listening to some very interesting speeches, and that part of the pro-
gramme has now come to an end. This is in no sense a speech ; I have
merely to read out to the conference the notes that the Secretary tells
me to, and he is very careful to see that I omit nothing. He pushes
papers into my hand, and I do as I am told.    (Laughter).

First of all, may I thank the last speaker for his kind references to the
Society and to myself, and to be especially grateful for having so lucidly
put before you the claims for our existence. He has explained to you
exactly why we need a Kipling Society. Kipling himself, as you may
know, wrote to me when we started, and asked, ' Why don't you wait
till I am dead ?' Well, we could not wait. He is the solitary example
that I know of where fame as a writer has been achieved and continued
for half a century. It is fifty years since I first knew him, and he is still
with us.

General Sir Sidney Clive made one slip. He spoke of ' founders '
in the plural, which you know is entirely wrong. There is only one
Founder—Mr. Brooking. He is responsible for my position as head
of the Society to-day, and I may say that what he did in the early days
was done in the face of considerable opposition. Mr. Kipling was
opposed to it, but Mr. Brooking was not to be gainsaid. And here we
are, an institution. The membership of our Society is 725, which is
a good figure, a slight increase over last year's. We had hoped to-day
to have some of the Dominion Premiers here, but that was not possible.
It is a matter of regret that old boys of Westward Ho ! are not with us
in such numbers as they usually are.

We have had some very good bookplates printed, in accordance with
Colonel Milburn's suggestion, and they are much appreciated. Our
first Branch has been opened in Canada, in Victoria, B.C., and at the
present time it has 15 members under the guidance of Mr. Cornwell.
General Sir Julius Bruche in his cable to us from Australia sends his best
wishes for an enjoyable afternoon. The Library is open after the
Luncheon for those who wish to make use of it.

One point I must comment upon, and that is the absence of Mr. Kip-
ling. I heard last night, and no doubt I could have heard to-day if
I had had time to go round and listen, the question asked, ' Which is
Mr. Kipling?—Is Mr. Kipling here?' Of course it is quite absurd
to imagine that Mr. Kipling ever could be here. What would it be
like for us ? I should not dare to speak, nor would anyone else in the
room, and if he were here he would have to endure our adoration. I
thank Lord Rennell for his phrase, ' the importunities of the indiscreet.'

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Well, we have not been indiscreet so far, and have not really importuned.

I would like to correct a common error. In the early days people
were always speaking about Kipling, and I myself used to say, Mr.
Kipling hates and loathes us. Of course, I did not mean all that.
I meant that it was rather embarrassing for him to have a society like
this in existence. But he realises that we behave extremely nicely
towards him, and no doubt had it not been for the Kipling Society a
large number of people would have been knocking at his door at Bur-
wash and asking questions such as, why China across the Bay ?'
On the whole (I will say it for him), he likes us really.

Last year there was a complaint made that this Society was too
military. There was apparently a fear in the minds of some members
that we might turn into a military organisation. But I can assure you
it is not the case. I am very glad to have my brother officers around me,
but it is only by chance that we have such men as General Sir George
MacMunn and other distinguished soldiers with us. This year the
complaint is that we are not literary enough. I will not comment on
this, but merely remind you that you are not being sufficiently literary.
Will you please try and be more literary. We want to be a little more
highbrow ! One individual wanted it—I don't know why. Personally
I am not in favour of it. I think we are carrying out what we set out
to do as laid down in our little pamphlet, which is to do honour to Rud-
yard Kipling and make his works known all over the world. That I
am sure we are accomplishing.

It is interesting to note that we have only one honorary member on
our list, and this is Consul Alfred Holm Laursen, of West Jutland,
Denmark. We made him an honorary member for his very wonderful
poem ' Lines from a Danish Sailor to an English Poet,' which appeared
in our No. 3 Journal.

I have telegrams from the United States, from the American Society,
offering greetings and heartfelt wishes for the afternoon, and another
from the old boys of Westward Ho ! wishing us the best of good for-
tune."

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Reviews and New Books.

In this section there are two important items to be chronicled :
a new Kipling poem and a speech. Following the wonderful " Hymn
of Breaking Strain " (The Engineer ; 15th March—also in the Daily
Telegraph ; 16th March), our author broke water with " Our Lady of
the Sackcloth " (Morning Post ; 15th April) ; this poem is described
in a subtitle as " Ethiopic Version ; founded on British Museum MS.
Orient, No. 65/2, Folio 9." It is a very beautiful paraphrase of an
ancient legend, told in simple language and style, with something of
the same kind of appeal that we find in " Eddi's Service." Two days
afterwards, the Morning Post published a letter about this poem,
from which we take these remarks :—" I never thought that tears
would be loosened in my eyes again since I lost my Labrador. I am
not notably religious and I loathe ' poetry,' but I thank the Master
for this most beautiful thing, and you for publishing it." It is impos-
sible to do justice to this exquisite poem without giving the whole of
it, but one verse will suffice to show the beauty of the general style :—
She passed in the white hot noontide,

On a wave of the quivering air ;
And the Bishop's eyes were opened,
And he fell on his face in prayer.

The speech, delivered at the annual dinner of the Royal Society of
St. George on May 6th, has evoked some interesting comment, some
of which, to put it in Mr. Kipling's own phrase in one of the later
Stalky stories, was " not without heat." Two Socialists, who had
' listened in,' both remarked on the beauty of the language and the
excellence of the delivery ; the latter remark also appeared in a letter
in the Press—" I may add that the manner of its delivery made it a
joy to listen to." Perhaps the finest part of the address came in the
peroration, in the reference to our Royal Family :—" The abiding
springs of the English spirit were not of yesterday or the day before.
They drew from the immemorial continuity of the nation's life under
its own Sovereigns. . . . One has but to look back over the last
century of our past to realize how that Royal relationship set itself—
through Mother, Son and Grandson—to consolidate and prepare for
our future, and to meet the hazards of our present. Three generations
of our Ruling House have accepted whatever burden of responsibility,
whatever merciless demand for effort, whatever of personal risk, the
honour or the needs of their people laid upon them.    Each generation

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in turn has bowed the neck to unbroken sacrifice, devotion, and patience. ''
During the evening, the Chairman, Lord Queenborough, read out this
message from H.R.H. the Prince of Wales :—" Please convey my
grateful thanks to members of the Royal Society of St. George for their
good wishes, which I warmly reciprocate. I am sure that with Mr.
Kipling as your chief guest you will have an enjoyable and most
successful dinner."

It may safely be assumed that the matter of this speech, as well as
the manner, has received general approval. But there are some
people in England who begin a study of foreign politics by saying that
England is always wrong—" Slang your own country first," they
would say ; that any country which is in general agreement with
England is also wrong : San Marino and Andorra have not yet, we
understand, been pilloried by the Little Englander, but they must be
careful not to express overt admiration for England's part in inter-
national affairs, or they, too, will be condemned by folk whose idea is
that universal peace may be best promoted by rude remarks on the
domestic matters of other nations. Now Kipling does not believe
these doctrines ; he stands up for England, as a good Frenchman
stands up for France, or a good German for Germany. The reasoning
of the Little Englander is never very clear ; out of several we give this
little squawk which, appropriately enough, is headed (it is from a
letter to a Leicester paper) " Discordant Note," though the discord
seems to be more prominent in the ideas of the writer :—" After our
beloved Monarch had in his broadcast address to his subjects prayed
that Peace may rest upon his lands, how dare this poet and writer so
prostitute his genius as to advocate that we prepare ourselves for, and
glory in, any further orgy of mass-murder. '' Most people, Mr. Kipling
among them, seem to think that we have gone far enough in the endeav-
ours to persuade other countries by practice as well as precept that
peace is the best policy. No sane person wants war, but every person
outside an asylum believes in protecting himself from violence. This
attitude of those who disliked the speech was summed up in a satirical
verse by " Hamadryad " in the Saturday Review (May   11th) :—

You were the bard of an Imperial nation ;

But we have done with all that nonsense now.
We cut and run from Indian agitation,

And scuttle when the Irish make a row.
                  Purged of the patriot ardour that immerses

The barbarous folk who brandish mailed fists,
We are—or hope to be—the universe's

Prize  internationalists.

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Kipling's own summary, in the form of a syllogism, is the best rebuke
to the England-always-wrong group :—" All pain—whether it comes
from hitting one's head against a table or from improvising a four
years' war at four days' notice—is evil. All evil is wicked. And
since, of all evils war gives the most pain to the most people, wickedest
of all things is war. Wherefore, unless people wish to be thought
wicked, they must so order the national life that never again shall war
in any form be possible. Granted the first premiss, the rest of the
reasoning is unanswerable —on paper ; but why the entire commina-
tion service should have been addressed by ourselves to ourselves is
a little obscure." The above passage was omitted or mutilated in many
of the principal papers, but those who desire to read the speech in its
entirety will find it reprinted in the June number of The Nineteenth
Century and After, under the title of "An Undefended Island."
History almost always repeats itself. Those of us who are old enough
can remember that there was considerable outcry against Kipling's
poem, " The Islanders," published in January, 1902 ; we can also
remember how his prophecies were justified ;—

Sons of the sheltered city—unmade, unhandled, unmeet—
Ye pushed them raw to the battle as ye picked them raw from the street.
And what did ye look they should compass ?    War-craft learned in a breath,

Knowledge unto occasion at the first far view of Death ?

*        #        #        #

For the low, red glare to southward when the raided coast-towns burn

(Light ye shall have on that lesson, but little time to learn.)
Punch (26th June) contains a splendid coloured plate of Kipling, called
"The Singer of the Empire."    This is the last work of Mr. Raven-Hill be-
fore retiring, after forty years with our leading comic paper.

Letter Bag

A year or two ago a friend told me that in one of Kipling's stories
—he thought it was on " .007 "—the phrase, " the scream of tortured
metal " occurs. I have read this story through carefully, but cannot
find it. I shall be most grateful if any reader can tell me precisely
where this is.

BERNARD  COLLITT.  (No.   1127).
Montreal.                               --------------

I want to know the rhyme, reason and object of " Gow's Watch "
in "Debits and Credits." Is Act. IV, Scene 4 a similitude to "The
Prophet and the Country ?" Of course, both Acts, in that book, may
be a representation of the previous stories, but I want to be sure.

L. H. PRESTON.
Penrith, N.S.W.

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It may interest you to know that Clifton Road (my address) runs into
Hauraki Road, and that a small area at the top of this road is sometimes
known as Hauraki. But there is no ' hotel for superior sailors ' at
Hauraki (Kipling's Women). When Kipling wrote "Mrs. Bathurst,"
I doubt if there were any buildings at this spot at all, but it is only three
miles from Devonport, the New Zealand naval base. Possibly it is
Devonport that Kipling disguises under the name of Hauraki, name
derived from gulf of that name.

R. B. PHILLIPS, Lieutenant-Colonel.
Auckland, N.Z.

Dear Sir,

I assume that most readers of this journal have read " Proofs of Holy
Writ," perhaps the most characteristic in style, scholarship, and humour,
among Kipling's recent works. For the benefit of such readers
(though they hardly deserve it) as may have neglected to read that
admirable little tale.    I sketch it here in outline :—

Ben Jonson is spending a summer afternoon with Shakespeare at
New Place. To them enters a messenger, bearing a letter in which the
Reverend Miles Smith, one of the scholars appointed by the King " to
sit " (Ben's phrase) " upon a clutch of Bibles " (The Geneva, the Douai,
the Rheims, the Coverdale, and others) invites William Shakespeare,
gentleman, as having some skill in words, to aid in hatching from these
varied embryos the final perfection of a passage in Isaiah. Which
final perfection (it is the great opening of the great sixtieth chapter)
"Will" does there and then proceed to hammer out, line by line, with
some help (and some hindrances) from Ben, and, as he will have it, at
the inspiration of " his Demon," while he strides in the grass of his
orchard.

I have just read, for the first time, in a book of essays, called " Pastiche
and Prejudice," by A. B. Walkley, published 1921, the following :—

Sir Henry Irving used to tell how he and Toole had gone together
to Stratford, and fallen into talk with one of its inhabitants about his
great townsman. After many cross-questions and crooked answers,
they arrived at the fact that the man knew that Shakespeare had
"written for summat." "For what?" they enquired. "Well,"
replied the man, " I do think he wrote for the Bible."

Yours etc.,

E. DAWSON.
Cairo.

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I was ill in bed at the time when No. 32 Journal arrived, and I have
only just had time to read and enjoy it. General Sir George MacMunn's
Paper on Kipling's use of the Old Testament is extraordinarily inter-
esting and Mr. Bazley's remarks in the discussion exactly express my
own feelings. I do not quite follow Mr. Beresford's remarks. Kipling,
of course, did not walk about with a Bible in his pocket, nor did he ever
' bang ' the Bible in our study ; but that does not necessarily mean that
he was not, in his own quiet way, absorbing its contents and enjoying
the beauty of its language—in fact it is quite certain that he was doing
this all the time. Mr. Beresford said :—" Kipling never spent
Sundays in school, so we never knew how he spent them." I cannot
understand this. My own recollection is that he spent every Sunday
in school, and I can recall many of them, as it was rather a favourite
occasion for adventure. There certainly was never any mystery
about his Sundays, and if he disappeared for an hour or two from our
midst he was probably revelling in the contents of the Headmaster's
library.
20/6/35.                                                  L, C. DUNSTERVILLE

Secretary's Announcements

(1) Meetings—Council have decided to hold five ordinary and one
special meeting next Session making a total of six meetings instead of
five. The extra one will probably be an afternoon one—Provisional
dates will be published in the September Journal, No. 35.

(2). Members requiring copies of the photographs taken at the Annual
Luncheon on 13 June should apply direct to Messrs. Swaine, Ltd.,
8, Clifford Street, London, W.1. (1) Luncheon (taken at 2 angles).
(2) Staff (Vice-Presidents, Council, etc.)

Price—Mounted 6s. 6d. each ; unmounted 4s. 6d. each.

(3). With this number goes (a) a copy of the Rules of the Society as
amended up to date of the Conference, 1935, (b) to overseas mem-
bers only, a copy of the Report and Accounts for the year ending
31st March, 1935.

(4) Journal Binding. New members are informed that (See Jour-
nals No's 16, 27, and 30) Messrs. W. & G. Foyle, 121, Charing Cross
Road, W.C.2. have all details of the "Standard" binding for Journ-
als. This is in red cloth, with emblem and dates stamped in gold on
the cover. The usual plan is to bind them, covers and all complete,
in volumes of 2 years each. The price for full binding is 3/- per
volume. Covers only 1/6 each or 2/- each, covering postage any-
where.    Apply direct to Messrs. Foyle.

C. BAILEY, Colonel, General Secretary.

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A.41    L. G. Whitbread

Banstead.

*    " Donor " Member.

t    " Life " Member.

+  "O.U.S.C." (and staff)

Correction—In Journal No. 33, page 32.
1321    Miss Margaret Ensor, U.S.A. should be as now stated.